Virtue Number 1:
Pro-Life Fundamentalist Christians enthusiastically support military leaders in everything they do.
Virtue Number 2:
Pro-Life Fundamentalist Christians vigorously support the Death Penalty:
Virtue Number 3:
Best of all, Pro-Life Fundamentalist Christians admire and respect the heroes of the Bible.
Here’s a Bible hero now. His name is Joshua. Here, he and his army are in the process of ridding the land of Canaan of all their nasty naughty people:
Christianity is the most vile bloodthirsty organization ever known to man and they only get worse as time goes by. It really is too bad there is no such thing as a rapture. At least they would be taken off this planet and the rest of us could live in peace and begin to heal the world we have been given. They actually think they are bringing the second coming of their savior by killing innocent people.
Just wanted to mention that there are pro-lifers who are not Christians. I am one of them. I oppose war and the death penalty as well, and my opposition to abortion is not based on religion. I feel that science teaches that life is created at conception, and that a developing fetus is a human being in an early stage of development. This human being has a right to live. I too despise the contradictions of fundamentalist christians you have mentioned.
I’m not trying to make you oppose abortion, only saying that there are non-religious reasons for doing so and non-religious people (like myself) who are against abortion.
That’s fine that you hold those views. I actually have more respect for someone such as yourself that is actually pro-life in the sense of being against war and the death penalty, things you and I agree on.
I do however disagree with the idea that science supports “life” being created at conception. Life is a continuous thread. The sperm and the egg are both alive before conception. Eggs are dying once a month in most woman under 40 and most men are killing millions of sperm cells every week with no moral thought.
To me there’s no compelling definition of a fertilized egg being a “life” any more than the sperm or egg or skill cells that flake off a person daily. They are all alive. The argument that it contains 26 chromozones instead of the 13 of the egg and the sperm is not convincing to me. Virtually every cell in our bodies has 26 chromozones and several die every day and are replaced with no moral consequences and we’re getting closer and closer to the point where we can clone “normal” cells into humans if we want.
It’s estimated that over 30% of the eggs that do fertilize never attach to the womb wall and and are discharge within a week of conception. We obviously don’t feel any moral imperitive to save them or give them funerals.
I’m actually against abortion myself under many circumstances. If it wasn’t for the fact that it would likely become a legal slipperly slope to outlawing all abortions, I would personally like to see an end to abortions somewhere after around 12 weeks in circumstances where the health of the woman isn’t in danger.
Where this line should be drawn is hard to pin down, but it should certainly be long after conception. But before 12 weeks or if the health/life of the woman is in danger, I think that should be the woman’s decision.
I’m glad we apparently agree that the viewpoint of a “soul” being inserted by a god or an angel when a sperm penetrates an egg is absurd. I parody this idea in another article:
http://www.goatstar.org/egg-saints-in-heaven
Interesting points about “life” and when it begins… as a former christian who converted to Judaism, I understand the Jewish “pro-choice” arguement, although I still think there’s a huge difference between abortion to save the mothers life, and abortion for social concerns… I’m also anti-death penalty and anti-war (but I’m also against unjust peace – realizing that sometimes violence is the solution of last resort).
I wanted to point out that this “Loving Creator” allows a powerful tiger to munch contentedly on a beautiful gazelle and many other such evident paradoxes millions of times daily. Maybe we don’t have quite as much understanding about the “value of life” generally as we think we do. That’s a pretty depressing thing, perhaps, but it seems true on it’s face.
Interesting points. As a person without spiritual beliefs I see a tiger eating a gazelle as a natural phenomena that reminds me that we as people are not completely civilized because we still butcher each other in the same sense without good reason.